Upgrades to the Sheridan Pkwy Highway and a modification of the Bronx River Pkwy connection to Bruckner would be necessary for this. The number one way to improve subway service in the Bronx isnât to extend the 2nd Ave Subway but to fix the many bottlenecks which limit the system. The US city that’s doing the most rail construction these days is Los Angeles, and LA is getting better at it — delivering lower-than-normal costs for the United States (though still high compared with continental Europe) and laying out a published document of project management best practices to explain what it’s learned. “I actually started counting because I was so surprised, and I counted 25 or 26 people,” he said. These are the two bus lines which took over from the demolished 3rd Ave El. Currently Metro North runs upwards of 40 trains per hour during rush hour on its four-track line through the Bronx. They would have to do a cross-platform transfer at 125th, just like (6) riders do today. Construction & Development. M.T.A. If a rider needs to go to Westchester, then the fare will be adjusted automatically. “You have to account for it, because it’s huge.”. With better transit the Bronx will continue to grow and as that happens a clearer picture will form of where we need to spend the big bucks. Not to mention, the many speed changes and long distance make this variety worse (source: used to ride this every day) Cutting service patterns isn’t doable: it makes already-long commutes longer and is very unpopular. The project, running from 96th Street to 125th, with a short segment under 125th to Lexington, passing under the 4, 5, and 6 trains, is supposed to be cheap. An old-style “cut and cover” construction method would never fly politically, and you have to deal with the fact that there’s already a whole bunch of infrastructure sitting beneath the ground. Found insideIn this visually stunning work, packed with original research, journalist and bestselling author John Morris brings life to this one-time engineering marvel that has united and expanded the city for the last 116 years. The unions working on M.T.A. So they have to keep them a safe distance apart as they go through the system. There are “nippers” to watch material being moved around and “hog house tenders” to supervise the break room. The 1968 Program for Action proposed replacing the 3rd Ave El not with the 2nd Ave Subway but with a branch off of the Lexington Ave Line starting at 138th St. It could be possible to run trains, though I don’t know how well that would work out. The regional rail would just be for regions further out, and actually don’t hav other transit service. After that, it would require iteration and learning. It's very cool and loooooong overdue. The problem is instead more complex. Improving is both possible and desirable, but it would take actual time and skill and effort. Phase One of the Second Avenue line, from 63rd to 96th Streets, opened in 2017 at a cost of nearly $4.5 billion. More bus lanes are being proposed along East 149th St, East 167th/East 168th Streets, East Gun Hill Rd, and the length of Tremont Ave (among others). And, indeed, this has been Paris’s experience. The 116th St station is being designed so that the two egress points are on the east side of the avenue. Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), The Future of the 2nd Ave Subway: A Bronx Tail Track, The Future of the Green Line: From Harvard and Needham to the Seaport, Unbuilt Highways of New York City and Robert Moses, https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1xRFD69lyiSkhCVO2N-99xyyaTXQ-VhS4&usp=sharing, 4.4% work on Long Island (Nassau + Suffolk). How do you propose creating sufficient Metro North local frequency in the 3rd Avenue area? “Right.” So while the city and state contributions got smaller and smaller and smaller, subway ridership went up, and so did the fares. The pandemic has created a nation of insomniacs. to bail out some upstate ski resorts after an unusually warm winter. Weâve seen that the Bronx has very good transit coverage and in places that arenât so good we have relatively affordable options to increase service. Exactly. The Nostrand Ave Branch features a reverse branched 2 and 5 train. You mention briefly in your article a 1 train service expansion, I assume this means reinstating the 9 train as a third track peak express? $2b which would fix systemic problems and add into the network ~35tph. "The story of the Second Avenue subway, as it symbolizes New York's inability to modernize its infrastructure and reveals the ingredients necessary to build a twenty-first-century megaproject"-- 2nd Ave can now see full service and the Harlem shuttle can see about 15tph given the single-track terminal. Nobody is suggesting light rail. In 1939, the estimate was $249 million. Bragdon described the price tags for Second Avenue subway projects as "out of whack" when compared to the costs of similar projects in cities like London and Paris, the latter of which just . Further up the line at 180th St, 5 trains branch off to Dyre Ave. Like with the cavern stations on Phase 1 and East Side Access, these deeper stations require more emergency support services to be built which drives the costs sky high. The Second Avenue subway's costs will soon be eclipsed by East Side Access, the project to bring Long Island Rail Road commuter trains into a new terminal, 140 feet below Grand Central Terminal. By DANA RUBINSTEIN. Then the Q can cross over the river on a new span and intersect the existing el on the east river bank. [screaming] “Stand clear of the closing doors, please.” Subway riders demanding an end to their commuting nightmare.” “So fed up with all the delays and cancellations that they are suing the M.T.A.” The New York subway now has the worst on-time performance of any major rapid transit system in the world. While these changes are not exactly cheap, the costs would be a fraction of what a new subway line would be. This is not a bad idea at all. At those prices, the $1 billion the MTA has in pocket would be enough to complete phase two with a few hundred million left to spare. Should it be elevated or underground. Then the only new tunneled section would be 1.7km long with 1 or 2 stations (transfers to 4 and D – possibly shared) in it. Sad, but definitely true. “I mean there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I wasnât sure if the Northeast Corridor was at lower elevation than existing 6 subway at Hunts Point Avenue/Southern Blvd. “No. Other cities typically man the machine with fewer than 10 people. Building the 2 Av subway to 125 St is upwards of $6b. During the Second Avenue subway project, for example, there were 5.5 safety incidents for every 200,000 work hours, according to federal data. So then could the B branch off from the Concourse Line at Fordham Rd? So you are reverse branching locals and express trains. Knowing MTA's projection it'll probably cost 15 Billion by the time its completed. Union officials pushed back against the idea that their members are overpaid. To simplify things why not send the 6 up to White Plains Rd and make the 5 now Lex local too (do the peak express on the 5 from 180 to 138). They were built to Triborough specifications, which is basically BMT Eastern Division size. The first phase of the project will cost approximately $4.4 billion, and the lion's share of the funding is already committed. Between the Second Avenue Subway, the $10.2 billion East Side Access tunnel for the LIRR, and the $4 billion World Trade Center PATH station, the New York City region is in fact spending a lot of money on upgrading its mass transit system. Workers in the East Side Access tunnel, which will connect Grand Central Terminal in Manhattan with the Long Island Rail Road. Phase 2 of the 2nd Ave Subway has been in the news recently as President Biden proposed a $2 trillion infrastructure bill. The Pelham Line serves these two areas but misses any connection further west into the Bronx or even into midtown west. Mayor John V. Lindsay, right, and Gov. Found insideA new edition of the market-leading guide to signage and wayfinding design This new edition of Signage and Wayfinding Design: A Complete Guide to Creating Environmental Graphic Design Systems has been fully updated to offer you the latest, ... Heck, the 4 alone is likely insufficient. The price to ride the New York Subway has stayed ahead of inflation, but many of the services have been reduced. Because of that and some technical issues, Mr. Ramond said Razel-Bec was losing money on the job. Currently the Harlem Line runs at 15tph in peak directions, although reverse peak is often a third of this. The mezzanine space above the southbound track could have a single track installed so that the mezzanine now becomes an island platform with access to the platform below. And each has secured rules that contractors say require more workers than necessary. All this branching reduces capacity on each branch and delays caused by reserve branching ripple throughout the entire system. I agree with most of what you said, just wanted to offer my own alternate IRT deinterlining proposal that would create a second transfer station near Hunts Point to relieve transferring loads at Grand Concourse. The tunnel-boring machine chewing through dirt north of Pont Cardinet — a secondhand machine, Ms. Brochard noted — was staffed by a dozen laborers who bounced between the control room, the cutting wheel and the sides of the machine. Penn Station Access has been in the works for many years and proposes adding four ânewâ stations along the NEC through the eastern Bronx (Hunts Point, Parkchester, Morris Park, and Co-Op City.) But this is being proposed as being a long ways off and these could be redeveloped. The Harlem Line presently has stations at Melrose (161st St), Tremont, Fordham, Botanical Gardens, Williams Bridge, and Wakefield. On a recent afternoon at a Line 14 … The M.T.A., for its part, did not dispute the findings. Seeing that the Bx12 covers the most essential crosstown service in the Bronx (and is the second most heavily used route in the entire system, deserving SBS distinction), would it be a reasonable investment to build fully lane-separated BRT infrastructure all the way from Pelham Bay Park or Co-Op City to Fordham and Concourse/Jerome, with provisions for an upgrade to LRT? I thought about the possibility of the B (or C with a de-interlined CPW/8th Ave Line) branching off Concourse running via Fordham Rd/Pelham Pkwy to Co-Op City. Rebuilding 143rd in Harlem I’ll base off the new South Ferry station: $530mil. To put the $4.5 billion cost of Phase 1 in context, when the Second Avenue Subway was first proposed in the late 1920s, the estimated price tag of the entire … In fairness, even the MTA aren’t proposing the line continuing west on 125th (yet!). Do we really need to extend the 2nd Ave Subway into the Bronx? . “Because if they controlled the costs, they could do twice as many expansion projects and still have more money for maintenance.”. Asked about The Times’s findings, union leaders and construction executives insisted that no money had been wasted. I will email it to you once it is finished. While the concept of Regional Rail is just catching on in the US (most notably the MBTA in Boston), the MTA is beginning to dip their toes into the water. The construction unions, after all, arose in response to exploitative bosses who underpaid and endangered workers. Keep the Bx6 where it is and convert the Bx5 to SBS through Soundview. As a native Bronx resident I like that you emphasize cross-Bronx travel and the benefits of more frequent MetroNorth service lieu of expanded subway service. The FEIS examined the potential impacts of the proposed 8.5-mile-long Second Avenue Subway from East 125th Street in Harlem to Hanover Square in Lower Manhattan. Did I say it was in his district?” Fulton Street was just one example. The M.T.A.’s high costs are not limited to the companies that build the tunnels. Across the length of its five boroughs, a vast stream of humanity will move.” This was what a New Yorker’s commute looked like in 1961. In the âshort termâ Iâd like to see the 2nd Ave Subway extended west under 125th St. With limited resources it will be far more useful as a crosstown line than another radial into the Bronx. The IRT was designed with an east (Lexington) and west (Broadway-7th Ave) side trunk line which reverse branch in the Bronx and Brooklyn. The quickest way to get from Yankee Stadium to 96th Street Station (Second Avenue Subway) is to taxi which costs $27 - $32 and takes 5 min. The discovery, which occurred in 2010 and was not disclosed to the public, illustrates one of the main issues that has helped lead to the increasing delays now tormenting millions of subway riders every day: The leaders entrusted to expand New York’s regional transit network have paid the highest construction costs in the world, spending billions of dollars that could have been used to fix existing subway tunnels, tracks, trains and signals. This might not be the end of the world for most subway lines but being the only subway trunk line along the east side of Manhattan means that every extra train counts. It may help commuters, and be more convenient. Ethan Elkind brings this important story to life by showing how ambitious local leaders zealously advocated for rail transit and ultimately persuaded an ambivalent electorate and federal leaders to support their vision. I propose, then, that the 6 be extended north along the NEC and connected to the 180th St station as the NY, B & W RR once did and continue on to Dyre Ave. 2017 - January 1 - New Second Avenue Subway begins revenue service. To evaluate those arguments, The Times brought the list to more than 50 contractors, many of whom had worked in New York as well as in other cities. The world's most expensive subway line per mile, the first phase of the Second Avenue Subway cost $4.5 billion after … The Lexington Ave trunk line has three branches in the Bronx: the 4 along Jerome Ave, the 5 along White Plains Rd and Dyre Ave, and the 6 to Pelham Bay. The project, called the Line 14 extension, is similar to the Second Avenue subway. Second Avenue Subway Community Information Center 69 East 125th Street New York, NY 10034 (212) 722-3700: Donald Burns, AICP Director, Planning and Program Development … To be accurate, the "Second Avenue Subway" is actually only three new stations (96th, 86th and 72nd Streets) and the tunnel connecting them to the existing system at 62nd Street. projects have been easier than work elsewhere. The route along Second Avenue doesn’t cross other subway lines and thus doesn’t strictly need to be at extraordinary depth. [cheering] “They are working on it. Looking at the map itâs clear which lines would see improvements from better crosstown connections. WSP USA declined to answer questions. And then blaming one another for the problems that followed. agency presidents who have left over the past two decades found that at least 18 of them became consultants or went to work for authority contractors, including many who have worked on expansion projects. The Saint-Lazare station in Paris serves the new Line 14 extension, a major transit project that cost $450 million a mile. Found insideExplores the homogenization of American culture and the impact of the fast food industry on modern-day health, economy, politics, popular culture, entertainment, and food production. Grand total (completely hypothetical): $2 billion. This got me thinking if this was actually possible and I think Iâve designed a somewhat elegant solution. But it being a major truck route it probably can’t be as nice as Eastern Pkwy. Across the Atlantic Ocean, Paris is working on a project that brings the inefficiency of New York into stark relief. I got a new job.” This rabbi was sent into a panic when his train stalled just before Shabbat. Mr. Lhota responded by defending the costs. (B Division trains are wider and can hold more passengers than A Division trains of the same length.) Found inside – Page 1This pocket-sized book also features: A foldout map for subways and buses More than 130 city and neighborhood maps Details on parks and places Listings for arts and entertainment hot spots It is the indispensable guide to the city. Period. Mostly, they worked by themselves. Mr. Parikh and AECOM declined to comment. But as exciting as the opening is, phase one is also a very modest-size project encompassing just three stations. Now for the Dyer and White Plains lines. “New York.”. The workers were laid off, Mr. Horodniceanu said, but no one figured out how long they had been employed. We’ll pay you cash. Several contractors said the unions are able to maintain the deals because everybody knows they are politically powerful. Four separate phases are planned, starting with the current Phase One, which started construction in 2007, costing $4.5 billion and adding three new stations. Personally I would leave the Bronx IRT unchanged. The reasons for the M.T.A.’s high costs start with the sheer number of people employed. (I am coming around to regional rail as a “replacement” for the 3rd Avenue-SAS branch, but I don’t think this obviates an SAS-Bronx link entirely.). But a deep tunnel minimizes conflicts with existing utility infrastructure. NYC Picked up the bankrupt New York, Westchester and Boston Railway in 1940 and the LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch in 1955. To fight climate change, cities need to be designed with much more walking, biking, and public transit use in mind. Local 6 trains would terminate here and go directly into the yard while express 6 trains would continue to Pelham Bay Park. They are supplement trains for rush hour service on the 5 that adds trains to the line without congesting up terminal space at Dyer. . But on the Pelham Line the peak express trains switching between express and local tracks delays trains behind them and reduces the overall capacity of the line. 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