I think all of this adds up to show that there are things that we don't know about Doflamingo that will make him vital to the plot, at least moreso than the average villain. I am sure more than 50% of people in the world would be willing to do despicable and immoral acts to attain that glory for themselves and their family. This sort of system makes… What makes Luffy special is that he is capable of accomplishing the impossible. It gets even better. After the war, Moria was brutally attacked by Doflamingo and a group of Pacifista in the backstreets of Marineford because, according to Doflamingo, Moria was deemed to be far too weak to continue serving as a Warlord of the Sea and was to be eliminated there with the world believing him to have died in the … One night, Doflamingo appeared at Dressrosa in Riku Doldo III’s chambers. Did I miss something? For the casual reader, this might not seem like much. Doflamingo loved his crewmates he cares about law and corazon. I don't believe that ending a fight to escape from an outside force (deadly gas) is losing. Sanji is the same strength as Luffy? Someone who is untouchable today could have their entire world come down around them in a matter of hours. But the question was submitted with the following comment: Their names both in end o. Coincidence? Oda does this all the time and its the same with the tournaments. However, Viola herself hates Doflamingo for what he did to her family and country and wished to kill him. Dolfamingo is going to be a more then one arc villain. Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide.It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here. In order to play up Doflamingo Oda has: gave him a large role in the war of marinford. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Here’s my theory: Doflamingo used Jesus Burgess to make a deal with Blackbeard. After Riku recognized him as a d… ... Would have left a shadow behind though and Doflamingo said he completely disappeared. I agree with you that Doflamingo is more than just another opponent in the context of the plot. Doflamingo was never interested in ever causing harm to Crocodile. Doflamingo said he was ordered by someone even higher up than Sengoku, implying the Gorosei (or maybe even Im). On paper, Doflamingo would look much more likely to be able to find One Piece over Luffy. After the war at Marineford, Doflamingo was ordered to kill Moria. Home; About; Reach Me; why did doflamingo kill his brother The most recent time we saw Moria was with the Blackbeard pirates, were he was considering joining them. [19] " If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. One Piece Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Standing at 692 cm (22'8½\") in height, he was the tallest among the Shichibukai.He has two horns protruding from the sides of his forehead and stitches running vertically from the top of his face and down his neck, which is rather long and thick in comparison to his body. He is the complete opposite of Luffy. Moriah asked him why, and he said "someone higher" sent him. Why??? Nobody can just sign up and join the Celestial Dragons. Oda built up the jacket man brothers and then they lost to sai. Vergo lost to Law and Law lost to Doflamingo. He still has a mysterious past, and we don't really know his plans. Suliman is an avid consumer of manga, anime, light novels, and the likes. After severely injuring Moria, Doflamingo merely laughed at him and casually informed him that the World Government deemed him too weak to be a Shichibukai and it would be better for it to look like he died honorably in the war. The fact that as an anime only viewer you are theorising makes me enjoy it all the more but Dog Laming (wait you wouldn't get that) Doflamingo is a quintessential part of the story moving forward but I must say every arc villain has had their day and lived to tell the tale mostly alongside the fact they've mostly been reintroduced into the grand scheme of things later on, I would think that Doflamingo is on the same calibre as Crocodile or even higher, just because Oda has been hyping him since Mock Town. At the surface, Flamingo reveals himself to be a man always seeking new thrills and longing for a new era to arrrive; on not as "dull" as the current one. I'm more confused when about when he was supposed to kill Doflamingo in your opinion. His significance is to show that men with dreams are greater than those who are cynical. He's already lost some of the top members of his crew, all because he stomped on Law somehow in the past. They were trying to kill Moria because he was publicly defeated. Doflamingo wonders if Moriah's Devil Fruit could be the cause of his disappearance. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! ...You want to support that? I feel like there is so much more to Doflamingo than the regular arc villain. But true fans know the raging undercurrents brewing due to this abolishment, and the future implications it will have on the plotline. The whole point of the Shichibukai is to show off the WG power by having all these strong pirates work for them, it's about reputaion more than anything so Moria being first defeated by Luffy and then publicly defeated by Jinbe (which was broadcast to the media) was a humiliation. Especially when both people in the fight flee at the same time. For other characters with the same name, see Donquixote (Disambiguation). Even t… Doflamingo also has a reason to hate people and enjoy killing while Clown doesn’t which makes him more sick. Menu. Yeah we still have a lot of his past to learn. Could be the leader of CP0. Doflamingo's glasses were based on a drawing Oda did of Kamen Rider Super-1 back in kindergarten. He usurped the title of king of Dressrosa by manipulating King Riku to kill his own people. Q: Why Did the Balrog Never Leave Moria? If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! No, I do read the manga, I'm just not sure if what I've heard is big enough. What do you think? However, Doflamingo said Moriah was critically injured and would die no matter what he did. Even after the things you said like his multiple appearances, even Aokiji gave big fucking warning to Smoker and even said it is the biggest challenge for the marines after Akainu took command. After the war, Doflamingo fought Moria and probably killed him (not sure). At this point Doflamingo feels overwhelming. It took Luffy, Zoro and Sanji to beat a pacifista before timeskip. via YouTube Capture. Sanji lost to Vergo? Although he has lost seven battles in his life as a pirate, Kaido is certainly not someone who would have lost to Doflamingo. Perhaps a few things. He had Sugar turn hundreds of people into toys. At the end of battle of Marineford, Doflamingo tried to kill him, saying that a person higher than Sengoku had asked him to. They both have conqueror's haki, they both have 'friends' high up in the WG, they both have zealously loyal crews, and up until now, they were both insanely lucky (Doflamingo's luck is wearing a little thin). Maybe not his complete past but why he abandoned the CD thing and also what happened between him and Law. When doflamingo was at the tower with the executives he said that if any one makes fun of his family or harms them he would kill them. Other than being one of the biggest hurdles the Straw Hats have to pass through (He's been hyped for like 600 chapters). He forced King Riku to kill many people. Doflamingo has every advantage to help him become Pirate King. I seriously don't think it's Kaidou... Take a look at this. What do … Suffice it to say that yes, he is an important person in the grand scheme of things. No way man.. a pactifista is a lot weaker than kuma himself. Doflamingo saved Crocodile's life and asked him to join forces. and take a look at this. Thanks and have fun. Also, he took his orders to kill Moria from someone "higher" than Sengoku. But obviously this bunch of elite human beings is exclusive to royalty. I think all of this adds up to show that there are things that we don't know about Doflamingo that will make him vital to the plot, at least moreso than the average villain. The reason why the WG wanted to kill Moria might be regarding to his performance in marineford. Vander Decken IX | One Piece The Unluckies, God's Army Charlotte Compote | He was willing to force Sarkies to brutally harm Bellamy for disgracing his flag. Why was he going to do this? Elite Officers: Trebol | Rokuro | To the innocent bystander, Dressrosa appeared as a colorful city of joy. Doflamingo is Sabo. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. The One Piece manga and anime series features an extensive cast of characters created by Eiichiro Oda.The series takes place in a fictional universe where vast numbers of pirates, soldiers, revolutionaries, and other adventurers fight each other, using various superhuman and supernatural abilities. Suggested by Toei Animation Co., Ltd. 「ドラゴンクエスト ダイの大冒険」特報映像 / "DRAGON QUEST: The Adventure of Dai" Teaser Trailer Initially built for 2,200 people, the camp has hosted almost ten times the amount of people it … The only people higher up than him are Kong (Unlikely), The Five Elders (also unlikely) and Im (The most likely). If we examine the power structure Sanji is a tough guy but he lost to vergo and was almost one shotted by doflamingo. Imu might be as powerful as we think. Defeating Crocodile, Moria, saving his brother, rescuing robin from enies lobby and defeating rob lucci, all through persistence, force of will, positive attitude, energy and vitality, is how this manga is built. We've learned something big about his past recently. I doubt he ever reach to Imu's place. The Moria refugee camp is the largest refugee camp in Greece located on the island of Lesbos. Moriah is stronger than pactifistas but weaker than kuma. Get it right. Foreshadowing is what Oda does. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. When he failed, representatives in the Holy Land were extremely worried, calling it “no laughing matter”. The Warlord system turns a blind eye to acts of piracy committed by those under its banners. After the time-skip, he formed an… Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Doflamingo is sure that World Government will kill him but he didn’t seem to mind it, meaning he has a plan. He had golden-blonde hair, fair skin (tanner in the manga, much like his brother), and sharp, reddish-brown eyes. Anyhow we know that Law worked for Doflamingo as a former subordinate so that may be a key to this dilemma but things do seem a lot more tied together/cohesive between characters in the story right now and I wonder what would be the Doflamingo's goal in pursuing a "business" out of piracy as a broker and his reason for being a Warlord (Law wanted to get to Punk Hazard). Also, he took his orders to kill Moria from someone "higher" than Sengoku. Moria is an abnormally large person with very distinct, devil-like features. I think his big 4 Generals will get defeated he will use his power to CP0 (To escape) and he will come back in a later arc to fight luffy. Why would Oda do that? I guess I should change my understanding of losing. Guys. I think for the hype that he was given there should something more than just he was Celestial Dragon. ANSWER: A reader asked if I know why the Balrog of Moria (or “Fred” as we affectionately call him on SF-Fandom) never left the deep places of the world to which he fled after the defeat of Melkor.. Well, the short answer is that I do not know. He's a, has the World government turn a blind eye to his antics, etc. In the Marineford Arc, Doflamingo tries to kill Moriah. If he knew he was going down he could have made a deal with Blackbeard since Kaido would have killed him due to the Luffy and Law capturing Caesar Clown and destroying the factories. He has had the whole story planned out from the beginning. The fact that when Luffy is about to face doflamingo that you feel like Luffy would most likely lose by facing him is a testament to Oda's planning and structure in the story. It reflected badly on the WG so they tried to kill him and claim he died during the war. Luffy would never do that. Do we know who may have possibly assigned a hit on Moriah? Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. Sabo is actually Dog laming. Moria is undoubtedly weaker than Doflamingo. In the SBS of volume 83, a reader asked Oda why Viola and Doflamingo called each other “Violet” and “Doffy” in Chapter 788. For the ones who thought that Doffy needed the help of pacifistas to defeat Moria. So what's his purpose? as the owner of the slave shop on the shabondy archipelago, Had him defeat trafalgar law in a battle of epic proportions relatively easily. Rosinante was a tall man (standing just below his brother at 293 cm) as a 10-year old Trafalgar Law was not able to reach his waist; in adulthood, he was a comparable height to his older brother Doflamingo (who stands 305 cm). Doflamingo is just an appetizer before taking on the yonkou and the world government. because he's the warlord and descendant of tenryuubito. He built up the destructive boxer and they were each taken out with one punch. They were trying to kill Moria because he was publicly defeated. The only other person that he's done that with is Blackbeard, and he's obviously important. Also important will be the mechanism of Doflamingo's downfall. Oda is just an extremely talented storyteller. Moria is as strong as pre timeskip Luffy. I feel like Oda is setting it up so that we compare Doflamingo and Luffy. If Sanji is about equal to Luffy then Luffy is nowhere near Doflamingo's caliber. I think he's dead as well, and since Pica/Diamante/Trebol etc. It was Crocodile who then threatened to kill Doflamingo and then proceed to attack Doflamingo with Sables (which did no damage, another thing that hurts your Crocodile got stronger argument). "It is later revealed that Moriah disappeared before Doflamingo could deliver the killing blow. The pacifistas were ordered to follow Doffy so that there won't be cheat. He did not necessarily become good, but he is not his old self either. He didnt wanted to believe that corazon was a traitor even tought it was in his face. Caesar Clown Doflamingo is the runner up and he may be bad but he doesn’t go out of his way to harm people like Clown does. Thus through combat relationships of superiority are built. Really? 7 years ago. I think as an audience, we're meant to see how fickle the New World is. People would do anything to reach that kind of status. At the point where Doflamingo was beaten, he himself was near-death and stowed away on a revolutionary ship, and before that, he clearly had no interest in having a war with an entire country and an entire Shichibukai crew on his own, especially with marines and whatnot around. 4 STRONGER THAN DOFLAMINGO: Kaido Kaido is one of four emperors of the sea in one piece and someone who can only be matched by a handful of characters. I think not. Doflamingo forgave violet for her betrayel. The night that he took over Dressrosa, Doflamingo masterminded a mass murder. It's possible that Oda was using him as a build up for the crew to take down in the NW, if Doffy was just another pirate warlord they happened upon on Dressarosa and they defeated him it wouldn't have as much meaning as taking down an untouchable foe from two years back who has been getting away with murder since we have known him, To bring the first yonko (kaido) into play either by him coming to reprimand doffy for losing sad/smile or to prevent smile from being destroyed. Imagine you were a King once upon a time. Ten years ago, a thirty-one year old Doflamingo started building his powerful reputation by stealing money from the World Nobles and blackmailing the World Government to attain the position of Shichibukai. revealed his connection as a celestial dragon. Since that hes talking about Doflamingo failing to kill Moria, wouldn't that mean the CP0 is above Sengoku o_O because doflamingo told Moria that someone above Sengoku told him to kill Moria. Doflamingo's philosophy is Anti Dreams. Next up on the list Trafalgar Law, who is one of the members of the Worst Generation. When he did that, he painted King Riku as a villain and usurped the title of king. And I don’t mean any old King but a Celestial Dragon who were Kings of the whole damn world! Welcome to the forums! I assume 1 pacifista is strong enough to handle Moria. The entire fact that you feel like doflamingo is some insurmountable obstacle that can't be defeated is entirely by design. could be possible that Moriah had stolen Imu's Shadow.... The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. What are you referring to? I mean sure, he's an underworld broker, he works for Kaido, and everything else we leaned recently, but does that really seem like it's enough for the crazy amount of foreshadowing there's been? I'm rambling now, but the takeaway: I really think Oda wants up to compare Luffy and Doflamingo. Fujin | Minozebra | Doflamingo, his brother wasn't supposed to be here he wasn't supposed to go out and look for him. I assume you don't read the manga? Or was there something personal between Dolfamingo and Moriah? He still has a mysterious past, and we don't really know his plans. Yes out of universe I’m aware it’s because Oda did not think of the Haki system or want to utilize it at the time we met these pirates, but in universe I believe there’s a reason why certain pirates didn’t show Haki when we fought them and why they may show it … The whole point of the Shichibukai is to show off the WG power by having all these strong pirates work for them, it's about reputaion more than anything so Moria being first defeated by Luffy and then publicly defeated by Jinbe (which was broadcast to the media) was a humiliation. In the One Piece world and with the recent events of the second part of Reverie, fans have come to learn that the Shichibukai system (that existed as long as the series itself) was abolished. Those gargantuan institutions that have been played up since the introduction of Ace and Whitebeard. One of the unsolved mysteries we still have is after the Marineford war, why Doflamingo was ordered to kill Moria. Think about it: Doflamingo has made appearance after appearance after appearance since Crocodile was defeated.
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